str ssj3 vegeta

babidi did unlock sum of vegeta's 'evil' potential but it was not ss2. Yeah vegeta probably couldnt have become ssj3 But, vegeta in early DBZ was very smart but when he became a SSJ he wasnt as smart. Cause Vegeta should've went SS3. However, their reasons are different. The reason is simple. 3. He achieved it because he was dead in otherworld. All of the Super Saiyan forms have drawbacks, if you look close enough. i dont think so vegeta fought to kill but goku fought to push his own limits so i dont think vegeta would be able to turn ssj3. Goku acheived it because he was dead and DID have his body. S1 - AGL Super 17, LR AGL SSj Goku, TEQ Tapion, TEQ SSj3 Broly S2 - PHY Omega S3 - STR SSB Vegeta, LR INT God Goku, INT Kid Goku S4 - STR Kefla, Sugesh, STR Cooler S5 - STR SSBKK Goku, INT Metal Cooler, LR UI Goku I love the stepup!!!! TL;DR, Goku and Gotenks are the only other SSJ3s shown, and they both achieved it through supernatural means (being dead or being fused). Goku fight and trains so he can protect his family and friends. :3, 16:52, September 21, 2012 (UTC)16:52, September 21, 2012 (UTC)16:52, September 21, 2012 (UTC)98.211.36.158tyree can i be a super saiyan. Goku and Vegeta will forever be even both are cear cut super saiyan 1,and 2 but with vegeta he never had a chance to go ssj3 and the ssj4 goku got help just like vegeta he had the elder kai put out his tail just as vegeta had bulma help grow his tail so both had help reaching ssj4. I'm not completely convinced that Vegeta never went to Super Saiyan 3 (even though we never saw it). Just thought that I should point this out, that the person that wrote this at the top is missing out on something; not to be mean, but Goku isn't a human. Actually the whole Super Saiyan 'level' thing gets kind of confusing really. 19:53, April 7, 2010 (UTC), They stated that Dabura was equal to Perfect Cell,not Super Perfect Cell.-------------------Ucell, if i may recall, they never said perfect cell nether did they say super perfect cell. Last edited: Dec 31, 2020. SSJ3 is IMO a forced increase in power "after attainment of SSJ2". Another similarity to Goku's dead self is that Gotenks apparently did not require much effort to sustain SSJ3, but it did cut into the time he had left as a fusion, similar to how Goku's form cut into the time he had on Earth. Super Saiyan 3 (The main focus of this article). and goku and vegeta were almost equal all threw out. Discussion in 'Dragon Ball Z DBZ Dokkan Battle Accounts - Buy Sell Trade' started by PathOfSelling, 1/17/21 at 3:48 AM. This, plus the tremendous strain SSJ3 takes, most likely means that though Vegeta had the power to turn SSJ3 (as he was equal to Goku in Base due to being able to fuse), he could not achieve the form itself. Throughout dragonball Z Vegeta has always pushed himself to the limits trying to best Goku resulting in him becoming a super saiyan 1 and 2. Gotenks also uses SS3 to fight an evoilved form of Buu and manages to fight him to pretty much a standstill. He always had some sort of help or drive to do so. I think vegeta could go ssj3 because he and goku were equal when they were ssj2. The tail is a requisite for a saiyan for them to transcend to SSJ4. had he faced dabura, then dat wud of been a great oppurtunity. Let's test out the damage output for the Super STR Super Saiyan 3 Vegeta GT (Limitless Saiyan) and Super TEQ Super Saiyan 3 Vegeta (Power to Decimate) at their 100% Potential. vegta does not need a got heart to ssj u need pure of evil or good and sayians r born evil evil is the proper and normal way to go, vegeta deos not need a good heart to become anything evil is the way sayains were born evil so evil is the key for a sayian, Just because he had the ability to ascend to Super Saiyan, Super Saiyan 2 and Ultra Super Saiyan, does not mean he had the ability to transform to Super Saiyan 3. He’s a good choice for any stage he is eligible for, like Pure Saiyans or Super Saiyan 3, etc. SSj2 Vegeta and Bulma tank quite well. of matching gokus ssj3.hes always been able to match him before why not now? Cooper31684 02:02, February 1, 2012 (UTC) *someone else* i would like to point out, Goku only inspired Gohan to bring out his full power, he passed on encouragement. SSJ2/Base Form are worse in balance. Just because he didnt never transform into it, doesnt mean that he cant. upheaval (SSJ, SSJ2 and maybe SSJ4 on Goku's case) or an external motivator (like the blutz machine for Vegeta's SSJ4). mean know that goku could change in to a ssj3 he was still ready to fight him mean sometime in those 14 years vegeta went ssj3 but never had the change to use it and he also say you're training ubb to be earth next portecter but you have a diffent movtive. Slightly raises ATK when AGL attacks STR, STR attacks PHY, PHY attacks INT, INT attacks TEQ, or TEQ attacks AGL. I believe the levels of Super Saiyans make a Saiyan stronger, but I also believe that the previous forms can be improved upon and become more developed. My theory is that the issue is with actually unlocking the SSJ3 transformation. The Fallen. I am a huge vegeta fan and i think vegeta could change if he want to as said on the last espodie of dbz when we fight karrato we are going to need a hold planet. it was the whole point y vegeta let babidi control him. Through training, Super Saiyan 2 actually seems to be a more reliable, stable and more effective form. even as Majin Vegeta .. he couldn't beat Buu in his fat form. And without Goku around, Vegeta lost any reason left to train, and like Gohan became weaker and more mellowed. Vegeta, however, pushes himself to be the strongest warrior just because. but either way, wen they mentioned dabura was equal to cell, they were not scared of him meaning dat they had grown WAY stronger than him in the past 7 years. even the author explains it on one of his blogs. LSSJ is x250. Another is that it must have been very painful to actually achieve SSJ3 for both Goku and Gotenks, and both had some sort of supernatural life force abetting them, and yet it still cost them to sustain SSJ3 as they got used to it. he was only elping telepathically. Still weaker than Goku, but much closer. [not when he was in his "Majin form"]. in the kid buu saga vegeta realised dat the reason goku surpasses him everytime is cuz he does not fight for power, but rather test himself to higher limits. He hates the feeling that someone more powerful than him is out there, so he constantly tries to catch up to Goku's strength. Then again maybe he needs different kinds of training. Huge Fan so Please respond Prince Zarbon=), if you think about, goku showed goten and trunks how to do it and. like i also mentioned before goku says "wow, u have really outdone yorself in the past 7 years" which cud mean dat he actually sensed vegeta's strenght earlier and realised he has reached ss2 before babidi controlled him. SSJ has better balance of power, speed, strength and stamina. then, well it depends. and increasseing powers to ssj3 to fight would have been a seond choice. Issei didn't know what he was getting into when he made a deal with The Red Dragon Emperor, all he knew, was his friend was in danger and he needed to save her, no matter the cost. Evidenced by Gohan getting his but handed to him by Cell then ascending to SS2 and beating Cell like it was nothing. SSJ2 is x500. Golden Warrior - Saiyan Warrior Race - Super Saiyan - Over in a Flash - Limit-Breaking Form - Fierce Battle Super Saiyan 3 - Pure Saiyans - Vegeta's Family - Worthy Rivals - Crossover x3x5 x7 x10 x30 x30 x30 Lv. i would assume one of the main reasons Vegeta never went to SS3 is cause of the "10 years of Peace" or "Modest living" after Buu. View all Freeza final form (angel) Goku Blue and Vegeta Blue LR Vegito SSJ4 Xeno Transforming Gotenks (INT) Buu (Good/Evil) (TEC) Ultimate Gohan (TEC) Buutenks Goku and Vegeta (angel) Kefla Vegito LR (TEQ) Gogeta LR (PHY) Beerus (PHY) Majin Vegeta Goku SSJ2 (Angel) Fused C-13 Coora (STR) Bardock Future Gohan (INT) Piccolo SSB (kaioken) Goku (STR) Zamasu (AGL) … In a way, SSJ3 drains "life force". Second Goku says Daburas around Cells level, Hes probally referring to the last Cell hes seen aka Perfect Cell not super perfect Cell. Shakuran13ThisendsNOW! 11:50, April 8, 2010 (UTC), theres a cutscene in a game where he wants to be better than goku and that he wants to show his true power and he goes ssj3 and flies off but i dont know what game it wasbrndn rgt 04:42, May 20, 2010 (UTC). After all, he only transform into SSJ4 only a few times, maybe after some training, he could transform alone? there was no circumstance before this time dat wud cause vegeta to use dis form as the show skipped 7 years on after cell games. The reasons that he did not on the anime can be; 1. However, Vegeta and Goku are exactly the same as SSJ2 and Vegeta can stay in the SSJ2 form as long as Goku can, hinting that his energy reserves are pretty large. They only see Goku transform to SSJ3 once and on a space of a few weeks, the 2 kids manage to transform to SSJ3 form. Potara: Using 2 magic earings SS1 Goku and SS1 Vegeta fuse together and become stronger than "Mystic" Gohan, who was stronger than a SS2. Proof of Goku being better is aginst Kid Buu, SSJ2 Vegeta got destroyed while SSJ2 Goku was holding his own, although Kid Buu was likely just playing around, Goku still did better. 135 Lv. Meaning vegeta was prepare to fight goku but never got change because all they fight in the past ended in a draw. hmmmm? Heart of a Dragon by SSJ3 Kyuubi Gohan reviews. Vegeta earned ssj2 during the seven years of peace after Cell. Ans unfortunately, this was a series that was heavily driven by fan opinion. Goku was dead, with a body that could not feel hunger and had unlimited "life". What Babidi did, at it's stated by Babidi himself, was to unleash Vegeta's potential, and you can notice that by the strain in Vegeta's muscles. Vegeta is a smart fighter, maybe the smartest between all the Z-Fighters. And he didn't ask how to turn into it, because he has his pride, and I don't think it would work. Potara is add the two powers and then x14,000. He can be strong against stunned Enemies, but in events where the Enemy cannot be stunned, he won’t be dealing remarkable Damage. When he went ssj2 he needed a power boost and a drive(such as pure hatred and evil) from Babidi(he also made his heart PURE evil again), and once he attained the form with Babidi's help, he could attain the form at any time. Don't forget Great Ape, Golden Great Ape, ASSJ and USSJ, which are x10, x800, x100 and x150, respectively. 2321. Any additional effects of the Super Attack will not change. Plus, with Goku dying so much and all, ? Back to the original topic of this thread, I also do not think it was possible for Vegeta to go SSJ3, mainly because of the aformentioned reason that Goku only learned it in Otherworld where he didn't have the restraints of a physical body. He understood that it was extremely powerful, yet it had serious drawbacks. Princevegeta66 17:24, July 12, 2012 (UTC). But I do think that Vegeta HAS need help for some of his forms, whereas Goku did not. Is Goku that is kinda anormal, not Vegeta imo (Vegeta evens says when Goku was kinda confuse about the Vegeta's SSJ4 :P). is right, Vegeta did achieve Super Saiyan 2 through harsh training, as it is stated in the Daizenshuu. SSJ3 Vegeta is a very balanced Card but is more geared toward Defense than Offense. If Vegeta was seen as a powerful being that had the potential to save the day, that could take away from Goku's image as the series hero. There's a lot more to it than just SS1, SS2, SS3, SS4. Alot of people say Vegeta was not able to go ssj3 because he didnt have training in the otherworld. But we are forgetting a factor here. Vegeta is yes indeed strong but I want to disagree with all of ya'll. Super Battle Road is definitely his best place, given that the Enemies in that mode have no resistance to stunning. N'T, I think he was dead and had his body ) Goku the magic even.... 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